take out new PUS item "dragon box"?

[BryanThePaladin]

I fail to see how it isn't blatantly obvious this is detrimental to the game. Regiss said it correctly, 1 CS in a few years was the going rate. Now it's claimed that this new money hole is "fair" yet people are getting CS's daily--That's the bottom line. It's blatant and you have no argument.

It's making more money for the company and that's all that matters in the end for them.

[MrStevil]

after i read the negative comments abouth dragon box..i just had to try it myself

i bought cash and spend all on dragon box

-from 3 box > 3 x wings

-from 1 box > 2 x 1000 hp ibex

-from 1 box > 9 bifrost fragments ( random color ) gamble > only crap

-from 1 box > 9 bifrost gems ( random color ) gamble > 1 foverin worth 90 / 100 m

-from 1 box > chitin shield +3


now i spend 2000+ cash
as u can see most of the times u get crap drops...for same money i throw 2000 cash in the water

it is gamble with real money ...u loose all or win jackpot


since juraid was changed i had problems to buy pots lol...
so this cs+3 is more than welcome !

since ntt the game is alot cleaner
i enjoy my gameplay again
...reminding u people of the manny years complaining because u couldent do a single thing in game because of cheaters


i voted NO

now dont tell me your negative comments

[Henri.]

removed dragon boxx and roll back

yeah , don't try to make me mad now ... if roll back = delete game

[zzz4rchzzz]

yeah , don't try to make me mad now ... if roll back = delete game

rollback, dont rollback, idc anymore either way.. i moved on already after this.. damage was done 10mins after this item was introduced.. regardless of what they do about it now some ppl like myself are just done with it.. im keeping all in case i return later (considered item gifting out, but just in case i better not), but for now just fed up with this nonsense..

i think some people need to learn the definition of "low", and even more so the definition of "extremely".. cause in my opinion whoever's bright idea it was to put IN+1, IB+1, CS+3 in the box had an "extreme" "low" amount of intelligence..

[Yahweh]

dont be mad.

I'm not mad.... just couldn't see the point of your post when you repeated what I had written

[riemann]

So according to you drop rates are extremely low. Ive bought 3 dragon boxes and received 1 chitin shield +3. 33.33% seems pretty good drop rate to me. Could you define extremely low? Less than 50%? Let me know if you need some help with this I got a whole brand new box of crayons so i can expain it to you.

That's not really how the probability works. It was 33.3% when you tried 3 boxes but for the entire community it was a lot less, not a 1%, not even a 0.1, so I'd say that you were extremely lucky.
What is more when we calculated the rates(just to check this), our calculations confirmed everything, and numbers doesn't lie.

[Yahweh]

That's not really how the probability works. It was 33.3% when you tried 3 boxes but for the entire community it was a lot less, not a 1%, not even a 0.1, so I'd say that you were extremely lucky.
What is more when we calculated the rates(just to check this), our calculations confirmed everything, and numbers doesn't lie.

This has been a point that many do not understand.... IF everyone who brought a box posted here the results you would see how low it is....

A clan member has 2x CS+3 and an IN+1 from X amount of boxes... whereas other members have had nothing and spent twice as much to get it it is all about luck and some people have that luck and some do not

[REGISS_]

This has been a point that many do not understand.... IF everyone who brought a box posted here the results you would see how low it is....

A clan member has 2x CS+3 and an IN+1 from X amount of boxes... whereas other members have had nothing and spent twice as much to get it it is all about luck and some people have that luck and some do not

still for server like Europe where countles chaos stones was killend in almost last 2 years there was not even one CS droped, now a one guy can get two of them in row. Which one of my examples is " extremly low"?

[zzz4rchzzz]

That's not really how the probability works. It was 33.3% when you tried 3 boxes but for the entire community it was a lot less, not a 1%, not even a 0.1, so I'd say that you were extremely lucky.
What is more when we calculated the rates(just to check this), our calculations confirmed everything, and numbers doesn't lie.

ok lets just assume its 0.001 for just 1min.. i know we arent supposed to use outside intel but at one point you got to admit KOK had proper exchange rates on silvery or red gems (may or may not be same as it was but lets just assume it is for calculation purposes).. lets take red gem - exchange - string of skulls as an example here (easy # to work with)... exchange in red gem -to- string is 1 in 1,000 (0.001%)..

so i have the same odds of getting a iron neck +1 from 280 n-point dragon box as i have getting a string of skulls from red gem with these numbers.. when in reality it should be as low as getting a string of skulls from black gem (1 in 10,000 or 0.0001%)

imo it should be>
IN+0 - 0.0001%
IB+0 - 0.0001%
CS+3 - 0.0003%
(notice the 0 instead of 1 also)

ADDON>>
another thing we may all need to consider especially GM's.. does DC flashs increase your chances of exchange for the dragon box?? does that 0.001 or 0.0001 drop off 2x 0's with 100% dc flash increase??? turns it from 1 in 1,000 to 1 in 100??

[REGISS_]

ok lets just assume its 0.001 for just 1min.. i know we arent supposed to use outside intel but at one point you got to admit KOK had proper exchange rates on silvery or red gems (may or may not be same as it was but lets just assume it is for calculation purposes).. lets take red gem - exchange - string of skulls as an example here (easy # to work with)... exchange in red gem -to- string is 1 in 1,000 (0.001%)..

so i have the same odds of getting a iron neck +1 from 280 n-point dragon box as i have getting a string of skulls from red gem with these numbers.. when in reality it should be as low as getting a string of skulls from black gem (1 in 10,000 or 0.0001%)

imo it should be>
IN+0 - 0.0001%
IB+0 - 0.0001%
CS+3 - 0.0003%
(notice the 0 instead of 1 also)

indeed, iron set parts should be droped at +0 if that crapy boxes gonna stay.