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    January Forum Event Winners



    Thank you all for participating in January Forum Event. Here are our winners:

    1st Place
    Server: Olympia
    Name: R4ven

    2nd Place
    Server: Ares
    Name: IamPeppinu

    3rd Place
    Server: Manes
    Name: AgitoFreeman


    Winners will be notified via private message.

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    Last edited by Roquentin; 02-11-2019 at 01:55 PM.
    I am definitely a mad man with a box!

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    thanks and congratulations to other winners

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    Honestly I feel bad for AgitoFreeman, his work deserved 1st place in my opinion. No offense to the other winners, but that’s just what it is for me.

    The 1st place has grammatical errors in so many places:

    "I didn't want to be fool,
    but Orcs are afraid swiming at pool."

    "They using forks.
    to slaying worms"

    "he can't watching porn"

    "They are not cowards,
    but they dying under the towers."

    "Their armor are heavy"

    Am i mistaken, or these are actual grammatically correct sentences in English?

    1st quote I took from his poem should be;
    "I didn't want to be a fool,
    but Orcs are afraid of swimming pool"

    2nd quote I took from his poem should be;
    "They are using forks,
    to slay worms"

    3rd quote I took from his poem should be;
    "He can't watch porn"

    4th quote I took from his poem should be;
    "They are not cowards,
    but they are dying under the towers. --- or --- but they die under the towers"

    5th quote I took from his poem should be;
    "Their armors are heavy"

    I wrote the corrections bold so that the errors would be noticeable.

    Where I am from, we don't accept grammatical errors in a poem. Let's give him the fact that it sure sounds KO related, but still full of errors... I don't know what was the criterias for determining the winners but, for a poem event, I think it should've been about being a proper poem without grammatical errors first, then being related to Knight Online for sure.


    And the second place, it is literally something off the internet. I thought plagiarism wasn't allowed?
    Let me prove it is not original;
    He is Italian, so he went "smart" about it and just took off a quote from an Italian movie, translated it, switched words with Knight Online related stuff, maybe added 1 or 2 sentences of his own and voilà! it apparently passes as an original work that can take second place now.

    Take a look at this Italian wiki page for the movie, that has quotes from it: https://it.wikiquote.org/wiki/Chiedimi_se_sono_felice
    Scroll down a bit. You will see this part there:
    No, non disturbatevi, restate sulla sedia, | signori mi presento, sono la commedia. [Applausi ed urla dal pubblico] | Non son fatto di ossa ma di atti | che vi lascino rimborsati o soddisfatti | il mio cuore è chiamato trama | gente che si odia e che si ama, | il mio sangue è tutto ciò che accade | dal bacio, al duello con le spade, | il mio cibo è il vostro battimani, | il veleno, gli attori cani. | Io sono la commedia e mi divido in atti | per raccontare a voi gli straordinari fatti | di questi cavalieri e della loro dama | di chi crede di amar | e di chi invece ama. | Si narrerà del poeta Cyrano e del suo naso | che pare modellato con lo stucco; | ma non ditelo all'attore, non è il caso, | perché ce l'ha davvero, mica è un trucco [Aldo si rivolge al pubblico indicando Giacomo, il pubblico applaude] | e di Cristiano, giovane cadetto, che si esprime poco meglio di un gibbone | ma ha fascino ed è di bell'aspetto. | Un po' di fantasia, questa è finzione, [Aldo si riferisce a Giovanni, il pubblico scoppia in una risata] | entrambi ardon d'amore, questo è il bello | per Rossana, cugina di Cyrano | di quest'ultimo adora anima e cervello | ma ama corpo e viso di Cristiano. | Ma l'ora dei preamboli è finita | è ora che si vada ad incominciare | a tessere la trama e poi l'ordito | a svolgere, cucire e ricamare; | che squillino le trombe signori spettatori | inizia la commedia, che parlino gli attori. (Aldo) [poi esce di scena, squilli di tromba e Giacomo inizia a recitare]

    To make things easy, now open it with google translate, to English, here let me provide the link for it:
    https://translate.google.com.tr/tran...se_sono_felice

    To make it even easier for you, I highlighted the parts with plagiarism.
    The original Italian words, the ones he translated to English and put there and also the google translation parts. Look at the matching color parts and you will see.

    https://puu.sh/CKG6U/2873f3a07e.png


    At this point I'm pretty sure the parts left out are also taken from some other work on the internet but, I don't wanna bother to find those too by spending another 20 mins of my time. It is also possible that he added those parts himself, but it does not change the fact that majority of his work has plagiarism and also fair amount of grammatical errors.

    The winners was announced 11 days after the event submissions were closed, and I was thinking "Oh, I guess they are checking them for plagiarism and errors and stuff. Must be taking some time" but... apparently not.

    It took me 20 minutes to check it and find the original work he took it from, why can’t NTTgame US GMs cant do the same...
    At least 1st place submission is nice and KO related even though it has grammatical errors, so to that person; don’t take this message offensive. You did good.
    But for the second place... shame on him, honestly.
    I am curious about what will be the reply of GMs for this.
    Sorry to whoever picked these winners, if they felt offended by my tone of the message but, there is no way of making this sound any nicer for them. If there will be no disqualification for the 2nd place winner for plagiarism, at least this will be a public shaming for him, hoping that he won’t be doing the same thing again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rund View Post
    And the second place, it is literally something off the internet. I thought plagiarism wasn't allowed?
    Let me prove it is not original;
    He is Italian, so he went "smart" about it and just took off a quote from an Italian movie, translated it, switched words with Knight Online related stuff, maybe added 1 or 2 sentences of his own and voilà! it apparently passes as an original work that can take second place now.

    Take a look at this Italian wiki page for the movie, that has quotes from it: https://it.wikiquote.org/wiki/Chiedimi_se_sono_felice
    Scroll down a bit. You will see this part there:
    No, non disturbatevi, restate sulla sedia, | signori mi presento, sono la commedia. [Applausi ed urla dal pubblico] | Non son fatto di ossa ma di atti | che vi lascino rimborsati o soddisfatti | il mio cuore è chiamato trama | gente che si odia e che si ama, | il mio sangue è tutto ciò che accade | dal bacio, al duello con le spade, | il mio cibo è il vostro battimani, | il veleno, gli attori cani. | Io sono la commedia e mi divido in atti | per raccontare a voi gli straordinari fatti | di questi cavalieri e della loro dama | di chi crede di amar | e di chi invece ama. | Si narrerà del poeta Cyrano e del suo naso | che pare modellato con lo stucco; | ma non ditelo all'attore, non è il caso, | perché ce l'ha davvero, mica è un trucco [Aldo si rivolge al pubblico indicando Giacomo, il pubblico applaude] | e di Cristiano, giovane cadetto, che si esprime poco meglio di un gibbone | ma ha fascino ed è di bell'aspetto. | Un po' di fantasia, questa è finzione, [Aldo si riferisce a Giovanni, il pubblico scoppia in una risata] | entrambi ardon d'amore, questo è il bello | per Rossana, cugina di Cyrano | di quest'ultimo adora anima e cervello | ma ama corpo e viso di Cristiano. | Ma l'ora dei preamboli è finita | è ora che si vada ad incominciare | a tessere la trama e poi l'ordito | a svolgere, cucire e ricamare; | che squillino le trombe signori spettatori | inizia la commedia, che parlino gli attori. (Aldo) [poi esce di scena, squilli di tromba e Giacomo inizia a recitare]

    To make things easy, now open it with google translate, to English, here let me provide the link for it:
    https://translate.google.com.tr/tran...se_sono_felice

    To make it even easier for you, I highlighted the parts with plagiarism.
    The original Italian words, the ones he translated to English and put there and also the google translation parts. Look at the matching color parts and you will see.

    https://puu.sh/CKG6U/2873f3a07e.png


    At this point I'm pretty sure the parts left out are also taken from some other work on the internet but, I don't wanna bother to find those too by spending another 20 mins of my time. It is also possible that he added those parts himself, but it does not change the fact that majority of his work has plagiarism and also fair amount of grammatical errors.

    The winners was announced 11 days after the event submissions were closed, and I was thinking "Oh, I guess they are checking them for plagiarism and errors and stuff. Must be taking some time" but... apparently not.

    It took me 20 minutes to check it and find the original work he took it from, why can’t NTTgame US GMs cant do the same...
    At least 1st place submission is nice and KO related even though it has grammatical errors, so to that person; don’t take this message offensive. You did good.
    But for the second place... shame on him, honestly.
    I am curious about what will be the reply of GMs for this.
    Sorry to whoever picked these winners, if they felt offended by my tone of the message but, there is no way of making this sound any nicer for them. If there will be no disqualification for the 2nd place winner for plagiarism, at least this will be a public shaming for him, hoping that he won’t be doing the same thing again.
    for tell you the truth.... this movie is new to me... thanks for info I will watch it ^^ (even if I dont like movies in general, I prefer to read books)
    I didnt use so much time in doing this work/poem ( call it how you want)...it tooks to me nearly 15 mins, sincerly i dont want to waste so much time in all this, since its a game afterall and I do just for competition, I like it.
    the fact that things are similar, yeah I could agree, some point are similar, but for make a rhyme the alternatives werent so many. ( look act and facts, these words for make a rhyme comes spontaneously).
    I'm sorry to tell you that I'm not ashamed of anything, what should I be ashamed of? ^^
    dude come on, I said already in another post: enjoy the life and have fun.
    You found "the hair in the egg" for me and the other guy, why?
    you've dedicated all this time for what?
    also if after all this I keep to see things much different than yours, plagiarize an opera in this way ( taking, editing, collecting, and finding other words for rhymes to give a logical thread to everything) would take more time and would be more hard than making an "original poem"....
    dont you think so? ^^ I do...
    I think i understood well what is your point, but I dont want to say...since decency prevents me from expressing myself as I would like...
    I leave you with an italian way of say: when they no longer have their hair, they find ridiculous long hair
    Enjoy the life dude, have fun if you want something, you are free to PM me
    dont we dirty the forum with these ridiculous protests

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    Sigh. hardly any use of iambic pentameter, and these are considered winners. lol.

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    hahaha! yeah funny peppe. I don't care much of win but It's worth participating to see this every month.





    I could not resist I am weak

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaggerFast View Post
    hahaha! yeah funny peppe. I don't care much of win but It's worth participating to see this every month.

    I could not resist I am weak
    Thanks for the "support"...."my friend" -_-
    I propose it again:
    "when they no longer have their hair, they find ridiculous long hair"
    think over, read...

    For any other thing, you know my nickname, you know I am online, you can pm me in game.
    As I said before: dont we dirty the forum with these ridiculous protests.
    If you guys are so interested in these 2000Kc, and you want to "sell" your pride for, you can say me. I will buy and gift you a code.
    Have fun
    Last edited by Italian995; 02-11-2019 at 09:34 PM.

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    Do not resent yourself, it's not the reality, it's just a post on the forum with a little humor, dude. I do not want that much the KC you know I participated for fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaggerFast View Post
    Do not resent yourself, it's not the reality, it's just a post on the forum with a little humor, dude. I do not want that much the KC you know I participated for fun.
    to tell the truth, your humor with those gif is a bit offensive ...
    (its an honest personal opinion, which can be contestable by anyone)

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    I didn't want to reply at first, but after seeing Rund's reply about how 2nd place is pretty much something off the internet I couldn't hold myself back.

    To his (Italian995's) reply saying "yeah I could agree, some point are similar"
    This is not similarity, this is pretty much copy paste with some alternative words sprinkled on it to make it look different.
    Also, he posted them from google translate, of course some of the meanings will be lost in translation or will be translated wrong. When I look at it I can see it is pretty much the same, anyone who looks at those translations can easily tell it too.

    Seeing your reply, you are just trying to dodge the facts and beating around the bush. Don't do that. At least after he exposed what you did, accept it and apologize.

    I spent almost 10 freaking hours to create something original, and something that would sound like out of middle earth, since Knight Online has that kind of vibe to it with it's zones, armors and weapons, and someone actually ranked higher by ripping something off the internet and changing it around. smh...

    I guess I will do the same next event, by just taking something off the internet, changing it in 10 mins and submitting it. since GMs look like they don't mind it. I don't wanna sound salty about it, but there is no other way of saying it. Shame.

    Last edited by AgitoFreeman; 02-11-2019 at 10:04 PM.

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